Should Milka be done-o?
I was watching the IndyCar Grand Prix of Alabama at Barber Motorsports Park yesterday, and at one point I realized I hadn't seen a single glimpse of Milka Duno's CITGO Dallara. According to timing and scoring, she wasn't even in last place.
That, to me, was a good thing - so far this year, we've seen the car on TV for all the wrong reasons. Spinning on the pace lap here, going off course there, looming like a slow-moving spectre in front of the leaders. I was hoping that maybe she was finally starting to show a little progress.
Watching Milka Duno try to race an IndyCar always leaves me torn. She is clearly out of her depth driving a winged open-wheel car at this level, but I can't forget how wonderfully personable, good-natured and intelligent she is. That latter fact always fools me into thinking she just needs a little more time to learn the craft before she can at least drive without being a hazard.
But yesterday finally cured me of that. Maybe earlier this season I might have been annoyed by the #ParkMilka trend that Nicole Manske Briscoe started on Twitter, but what happened yesterday finally has me on the bandwagon.
What finally convinced me? It was the sudden and jarring appearance of Duno's #18 in traffic, moving painfully slowly as other cars desperately bobbed and weaved to avoid her.
Usually slower cars, when shown the blue flag with the yellow stripe that means "Let Faster Cars Pass," give way to faster cars by abdicating the line and giving plenty of room for them to overtake. Duno, however, did none of that. Whether she panicked or, worse, she didn't know better, Milka had chosen the center of the track as her "out of the way" spot and had slowed to less than half of race pace. In that moment she was a clear danger to everyone around her.
In that moment, race control should have parked her.
Why the Iron Hand of Justice in race control didn't - and, to date, hasn't - is a mystery to me. Quick to pick out every block, every violation of pit lane speeding, and other various and sundry missteps by other drivers, they were conspicuously silent on this day as they seem to have been on all of the preceding race days with regards to Milka Duno.
But what I saw - what everyone saw - was not simply a failure to go fast. Milka has shown speed at times and without traffic around her is capable of going faster than most armchair racers like myself. But what she displayed at Barber and what makes her... well, there's no other way to put it, dangerous, was a spectacular and potentially tragic lack of basic racecraft.
Hugo Chavez' money might buy enough speed for a race team to compete, but it can't purchase race smarts. Those are learned on the way up the racing ladder - those who do not learn those lessons either stop progressing up the ladder on their own or are forced off of it by their peers, race control, or - in the worst case - serious injury or even death.
Milka's inability to allow faster cars past her safely is more than simply worrisome - it is hazardous. Whether it is a result of panic behind the wheel or incompetence or simply going overboard in trying to be courteous, her performance - or lack thereof - is putting the other drivers in the series at risk.
The IndyCar series took the extraordinary measure to park Marty Roth under similar circumstances. They need to do so again. And perhaps they need to look into establishing rules on race pace and set up additional guidelines that establish a minimum standard for racecraft. Maybe they even have all of that already - which begs the question, if that's true, why haven't they applied them to Milka?
I've been willing to give Milka the benefit of the doubt - in fact, I've stretched "benefit of the doubt" so far that it's almost screaming for mercy - but the time for the experiment is over. Milka Duno may yet have a successful career in motorsports but - as harsh as this may sound - it should not continue with the IZOD IndyCar Series.
It's for everyone's own good.
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Should she have been parked? Yes.
But allow me for a moment to express how unprofessional I found Nicole Manske-Briscoe’s use of twitter yesterday. Despite being a motor racing journalist, she felt it would be wise to use her husband’s twitter account to help start the #ParkMilka movement. Journalists aren’t supposed to become part of the story, and she made sure she put herself front and center in the story because of her actions.
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I agree.
She’s trying to wear two hats – racing journalist and wife of a racer. Maybe she thought that since she was talking about IndyCar and she covers NASCAR, it was okay… not so much.
You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers.
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I agree with th idea of the "Tweet,
However the actual message seems as you stated, unprofessional.
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Coyne-o needs the coin-o from Citgo
Without the Citgo money. there might not be a 2010 Dale Coyne Racing entry on the grid. Either of them. Not that Alex Lloyd is a front runner, either…
A lot of guys get to keep their jobs. Milka hasn’t wrecked anybody, and often does not qualify or finish last at oval events.
Park Nicole Briscoe and Ashley Judd. In the beauty salon, where they can share their oversight more appropriately.
Yeah...
I’m pretty much right there with Andy, with some caveats. Milka’s cash is pretty much the only income that Coyne’s got this year, isn’t it? Lloyd is clearly a fast guy (he actually spent some time in the top-10 yesterday), but with the lack of testing and development at Coyne, he’s not going to get to show that off. At least with Milka around, he gets to drive instead of sit out.
Anyway, I’m starting to change my tune on Milka again. When she came into the series I was horrified. A couple of co-driven wins in thin competition in sports cars shouldn’t mean that you’re ready for Indy. Then, I was cool with her at least helping the car count. However, after seeing her behavior at Barber yesterday, Mid-Ohio last year (where I say that she hastened Dixon getting around Wilson by at least 3-4 laps by Justin never being sure where she was going to go to let them by), and what I saw with my own eyes at Kansas last year (where the far-faster likes of Dario took 2-3 laps sitting behind her to try to figure out exactly what line Milka was most likely to take, so that he could most safely try to lap her; that was repeated time after time all day long with everybody who approached to lap her), I’m thinking that Brian Barnhart needs to start tightening her leash. It’s OK for her to come out and make up the numbers, and keep some guys employed, but the second she looks like she’s not consistent in her line or starts having moments of gross indecision (like, say, pulling only halfway across the track to let somebody lap you, resulting in two cars splitting you…several times per race), she needs to be pulled off the track.
by The Speedgeek on Apr 12, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Keeping DCR on track...
Look, at the beginning of the season I was making the same argument.
But I’d rather a bunch of crew guys on an IndyCar team go looking for work than have a single racer laid up in a hospital because Milka does the equivalent of flailing her hands up by her face and squealing when people try to lap her.
Like I said, the issue isn’t her speed per se – everyone keeps pointing out that she doesn’t qualify last and that she doesn’t finish last. The issue is her overall racecraft. She is driving at a level that is beyond her capability. Sadly, it’s the same problem that Paul Dana had – he was fast and getting faster, but his situational awareness – or lack thereof – eventually resulted in a terrible and tragic story when he died at the wheel.
I am not one to push the panic button but there has to come a point when race control steps in for the good of the competitors, and what happened Sunday should have been all the impetus they needed to do so.
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I don't get what Citgo gets out of sticking with her
I feel like someone like this from GP2 would perform better and give them better exposure. He’s Venezuelan and actually has open wheel experience. He might not want to make that type of switch, but there has to be someone out there that can check all the boxes. Duno just doesn’t get any attention anymore, she’s a footnote so there doesn’t seem to be an upside to sticking with what has to be someone embarrassing. I wouldn’t want my brand being associated with someone who is a danger and a joke in the paddock.
Yes.
This has been another episode of Simple Answers To Simple Questions.
Tune in next week when we answer “Does the IICS need a new chassis?”
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Sometimes the self-evident needs to be expressed because others cannot see the obvious.
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I totally agree
My comment wasn’t made as a dig at the necessity of your post. More of a dig at anyone who doesn’t see the obvious at this point. :)
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Breeeliant.
“Yes” will also answer the following question in three million households in the U.S.:
“Dad, if the #18 car gets parked, does that mean the Boy Scout car won’t be running all the races either?”
Very unfortunate analogy of yours Tony, and made without merit. If Duno causes an incident, it will stink. Same if any other backmarker, or reckless driver in the third or seventh row, does the same.
Should there be some behind-the-scenes negotiating going on to improve the situation? Yes, and the mystery DNF solution has been used by Duno’s team and others in the past. Everything else is handled behind closed doors, this one is no greater a task than a couple of team mergers.
Rather than list cases to point out slower drivers, maybe someone could point out incidents that Duno has caused. She has enough experience to justify her participation, in my opinion.
Wheldon screwed up most of a qualifying session the other day. I guess he should be sent out last next time? Isn’t he the same guy who took out Tags in Brazil? And took out Moraes in St. Pete, even though his team says it was just one of them racin’ deals?
There is a difference...
…between “acceptable risk” and “needless risk.”
A lack of situational awareness in high-speed racing is a critical shortcoming. You have to be able to trust that the other guy will have at least a basic understanding of what the right move for a certain situation is. Someone lacking situational awareness can, for instance, be unaware of a yellow-flag condition and barrel into a wreck at full speed, which is what happened to Paul Dana. Milka’s lack of situational awareness has caused several incidents – most famously, Graham Rahal’s wreck at Indy last year – and nearly resulted in mayhem at Barber. Just because the other drivers’ skill prevented that mayhem does not mean that the risk of it is acceptable.
Keeping the Boy Scout car running is not enough of a justification to turn a blind eye to the kind of fundamental flaw in technique. In fact, that kind of thinking reeks both of desperation and of misplaced priorities.
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I’m starting, with every passing race, to agree more with Tony’s side of this. The hope, three solid years ago, and by people other than me, was that Milka was going to get up to speed eventually. Here we are, 30 races into her IndyCar career, and she’s showing no signs of speeding up, or even showing many signs that she’s catching on to what goes on on the track. I’m telling you from what I saw last year at Kansas, the drivers, ALL of them, are just short of terrified to drive anywhere near her. Ryan Hunter-Reay had a dog of a car that day, but nobody had any problem getting around him because he used a consistent line, every lap, and so if you followed him for two corners, you knew where he was going to go. Milka, on the other hand, was varying her line from lap to lap, from corner to corner, and even sometimes changing her line in the middle of corners, even if somebody was approaching to lap her. The entire field avoided incidents with her all day, only because they all slow down to 90% speed to go around her (which is possible only because she’s doing something like 80% speed normally). All it’s going to take is somebody being caught up in a battle with somebody, not realize it’s her that they’re lapping, and her cutting up or down into the side of somebody. Boom, two destroyed race cars, maybe more, maybe some injuries. It’s not a matter of “if” so much as “when”, and I think Barber proved that out. Somebody who is 30 races into a racing career of any sort, let alone 30 races into an IndyCar career, should know that if you’re being lapped, you should pick one line and stay there. They teach you that in racing school. Instead, she’s cutting around wherever, acting in half-measures, seemingly oblivious to everything around her.
I’m not saying that she needs to be kicked out, just that Brian Barnhart needs to start saying “look, the first time I see you do something out of sorts, you’re in the pits for the rest of the day”. Citgo gets to circulate the track a dozen or two times, Milka gets to meet and greet with the fans, Coyne’s guys stay employed, and the car probably goes back on the trailer with all four wheels more often than not. Win-win-win.
by The Speedgeek on Apr 13, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
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“In fact, that kind of thinking reeks both of desperation and of misplaced priorities.”
Way overboard, and far from the first time. You’ll find your share of allies, no doubt.
Yes, That Comment IS Way Overboard
But that is sadly, not the first time Tony has written something like that,. Usually, I agree with much of what Tony writes, but even though I am no fan of Milka Duno’s driving, that is still hyperbole which shows an inability to produce a logical argument. One doesn’t need to produce propaganda when one can reason intelligently.
On a related note, on another IndyCar site-Theotherside by Matt Chamois-sorry I can’t do links-has a rumor that the IndyCar series is trying behind the scenes to park Milka by encouraging her to become a team owner, thus keeping the car-and the financing-in the series while getting her out of the car gracefully and allowing her to save face. Hopefully, this or something similar can happen, because Milka certainly can be an off-track asset to the series, but she is certainly a danger on the track.
by Ironcurtianantihero on Apr 13, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions
Addressing the rumor
If that rumor is true, what good does that do Dale Coyne? I mean, Andy has made a crusade about keeping the Boy Scout car in the series at all costs, which is what I was addressing with my “hyperbole” – if Milka becomes a team owner, what does that do to save the jobs that would be lost at DCR?
Milka is not there to be a Sarah Fisher. She’s there to drive, and her money is giving her the chance to do it. She has no interest in owning a team or else she’d already be wearing that hat. If – and this is a big “if” – she ever learns the necessary fundamental racecraft it takes to race without being a hazard, then mas alla and good for her. She definitely has the intelligence, so whatever is making her more than just a backmarker is instinct, or lack of it. That sort of thing cannot be taught – it either has to be developed or it will never make itself known.
As GroundedEffects says, there have always been backmarkers – but most of them have enough sense to be able to stay out of the way. The ones who haven’t had that sense historically have not lasted long in the series, either because of their own initiative to do something else or because they were forced out. Milka’s rather large insurance policy precludes her team showing her the door and she’s shown no sign of taking that step on her own, so the remaining options are rather limited.
I haven’t done a lot of real-life racing so I’m an easy target for people who like to question my bona fides… but I’ve done enough to know that having a driver on the same track with you that has a lack of situational awareness of this magnitude is more than a simple inconvenience. I don’t care whether it’s done behind closed doors or if race control parks her mid-race – unless Milka has a “come to Jesus” moment and figures out what she’s lacking in basic racecraft, she represents a real hazard.
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Hear me out...
I’ve been back and forth on this issue in my head many times and while she certainly doesn’t seem to have the ability to barely even compete with the bottom half of the IndyCar driver pool, the chief problem I see is that we complain so much about her. I didn’t see the same “danger” she posed that perhaps others did (inconvenience, no question) and I have to agree with JagTechOhio on this one.
Backmarkers have always existed in IndyCar and many other forms of racing whether by lack of skill or equipment and for whatever the reason. If you look back to the ‘glory days’ of IndyCar circa 1970s and 80s all but the best 3 or 4 cars typically finished on the lead lap (ovals AND roads), and a top 10 finish meant you were within 5 to 10 laps of the leader.
Don’t believe me? Here is a great and simple site to see the evidence – http://www.champcarstats.com/Year.htm
Compare some finishes there with the most recent race at Barber found here:
http://www.indycar.com/var/assets/indycar-race-lapfinal2.pdf
The kinds of gaps between winner and 10th back in the 1980s aren’t even fathomed by many who watch the sport now. It would seem we’ve been fairly spoiled over the last 15 years by how close the racing is in this series and a whole generation can’t imagine watching a race with such disparity as there was in ‘the good old days’.
As much as it may or may not pain him to say, Dale Coyne needs her and I honestly don’t think IndyCar is in any worse shape because she is here. She apparently has met all the requirements to race in the IndyCar series.
If her ability to bring money to a team, be good with fans, not destroy equipment, is not a PR nightmare (see: Roethlisberger or Arenas), and doesn’t create more than an general inconvenience to other drivers, isn’t good enough, then perhaps the issue should be in addressing the qualifications to race in the IndyCar series.
Any drivers or driver’s significant others/representatives that whine about her publicly, certainly have the right, but must also consider that they do more harm to the series than does Milka. It is a league competition matter to be addressed, certainly, but behind closed doors with those who run the show, not in the realms of Twitter by observers.
by GroundedEffects on Apr 14, 2010 9:58 AM EDT reply actions
2 things....
One, it appeared that Alex Lloyd at times was pretty much a hazard on the track as well (not as bad, but still). Is some of the blame on the race team not being able to produce a car that can get up to speed? Just a thought, as I was at the race and saw Lloyd being passed similarly to Duno several times.
Two, could the officials not throw a black flag for Milka? It’s probably too late to institute something like a 105% rule for the races, but if a driver does not obey the race officials flagging to move over, they should black flag them and solve the problem that way.
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