Sweating out ICONIC's chassis decision
The IZOD IndyCar Series' advisory panel released its recommendations to the league regarding the 2012 engine specification two weeks ago to great fanfare.
It was a somewhat tricky balancing act for sure, with the series trying both to appease calls for a more open and inclusive formula while keeping current exclusive supplier Honda happy. But thus far the response from all parties seems to be overwhelmingly positive. In Pop Off Valve's own unofficial polling, 91% of respondents were at least "optimistic" about the new formula.
That's the good news.
What still hasn't been answered is what will happen with the series' chassis specification or the ICONIC panel's recommendation for it. The same questions that surrounded ICONIC's engine recommendation apply to the chassis - how much should change, and how much change is too much change?
More worrisome for many fans, perhaps, is a larger question - can IndyCar afford to be as inclusive with the new chassis as they will be with the engines?
Let's make one thing clear from the outset - the new 2012 chassis is a slightly different problem than the 2012 engine. For one thing, the engine situation was one that required a solution for a lack of competition. Honda, the exclusive provider of IndyCar powerplants for over half a decade, has produced virtually bulletproof powerplants. But reliability is not the sexiest selling point in the world, particularly when it is understood that, lacking any peers, Honda had no incentive to push the engines' performance beyond a very safe zone. The 2012 engine spec at once satisfies Honda's desire for competition, keeps Honda happy by allowing them to use an offshoot of their current V6 technology, and opens the door wide open for manufacturer interest by allowing whatever solutions that will fit within the league's parameters for horsepower and displacement.
The chassis problem is another animal altogether. Although there is great interest from several parties in producing the new IndyCar, only one of them even alludes to an open paradigm for allowing competing manufacturers to take part at the same time. That manufacturer is Delta Wing, LLC, whose business model is targeted less towards providing full rolling chassis for all teams and more with being a marketplace of sorts for parts and the development thereof.
Delta Wing, in theory, would provide league-approved parameters for the car in general and then allow teams or other manufacturers to fabricate unique parts and pieces that fit those parameters ("legal" parts would be stamped with Delta Wing's and league approval). It is far more of an open system - again, in theory - than any other manufacturer proposal, and if adopted it would lead to the most diversity between teams in terms of the on-track product.
Unfortunately for Delta Wing, there are two issues about which virtually all IndyCar fans - and not a few IndyCar insiders as well - are extraordinarily skeptical. First of all, the rolling model that Ben Bowlby and the Delta Wing team came up with is not the prettiest thing in the world. It's certainly awe-inspiring because it is so different from what everyone is used to - indeed, the very difference is one of its main selling points to supporters because according to them the buzz it will inspire will be off the charts. But although the Delta Wing team keeps saying over and over that a whole collection of Delta Wings among 25+ teams could look as different as night and day from each other, there is no getting around the fact that the one that got built - even as only a rolling model - looks like a giant phallus on wheels.
Snarky sniggering aside, the second issue is the backbreaker for a lot of fans: the Delta Wing is not an open-wheeled car. The wheels are at least 50% covered by the bodywork - out of safety and efficiency, the DW team cries to deaf ears - and that automatically removes the Delta from the "open-wheel" category. And also, it's a tricycle, for Pete's sake! Sure, it's four-wheeled, but the front wheels are only separated because Bowlby and company were afraid that having just one wheel would be too much for fans to handle (BINGO!). The tricycle-appearing form factor has many fans wondering how the hell the Delta Wing will turn at high speeds, and no amount of "doubletalk" from the DW folks about computer assists or computational fluid dynamics or anything else seems to be able to dissuade them from their doubts.
But the thing that might ultimately torpedo the Delta Wing in the eyes of the ICONIC committee is the way that Delta Wing, LLC, has positioned themselves in their presentation as arbiters of chassis technology and the traffic cops for the flow of part approvals and designs based on DW's so-called "open source" platform. That's a lot of control to cede to a third party by anyone's reasoning, and the fact that many of the team owners in the league back the Delta Wing project has some folks wondering if the situation might turn into another owners vs. league situation - the likes of which nearly destroyed the sport fifteen years ago.
The manufacturers that remain all share a similar philosophy - that is, in order for the financials to work for them, they need to be the sole, unchallenged supplier of IndyCar chassis for the entire league. The designs all look unique - from Swift's ever-growing catalog of eye candy to Dallara's more pedestrian renders to BAT's frankly head-scratching design - but the common thread from each is that they do not want competition from other builders.
The jury is out about whether this demand is more of a legitimate expression of financial viability than simply vocalizing the builders' monopolistic self-interest. But anyone hoping to see variety on the track will likely be disappointed to learn that outside of varying paint schemes there will be very little visual distinction if a non-Delta-Wing manufacturer gets the ICONIC recommendation.
The notable exception is Lola, whose presentation appears to be the most practical of the lot. While Lola does not buck the trend of requiring exclusivity, at least they provide two very intriguing aspects to sweeten the deal. First, the Lola car will share a common tub across both the IZOD IndyCar Series and the Firestone Indy Lights Series, which reduces both costs and the learning curve for aspiring drivers. Also, Lola's presentation includes two "variants" of the IndyCar chassis that look visually distinct while being roughly equal in performance.
One option that has been gaining fan support of late has been the idea of a common tub instead of a full rolling chassis. The tub would be provided by one of the presenting manufacturers and conform to all safety regulations, while the rest of the car would be built from parts supplied by third-party builders. While this solution would definitely signal a return to the type of race car development that IndyCar has been famous for during most of its history, it would certainly be the most expensive option available to the ICONIC panel.
The great unknown here is the thinking of the ICONIC panel and who among the prospective builders might have an iron in the fire. With the engine issue, appeasing Honda was a critical aspect of ICONIC's processes. One wonders whether Dallara might not be thrown a bone because of their history with IndyCar this decade, as well as the proven safety of their tub which was illustrated so graphically this year at Indianapolis. Another question is the amount of change IndyCar is willing to make in their car specification - how conservative or radical does CEO Randy Bernard want to be? Does he go after the headlines and buzz, or does he proceed cautiously with incremental, evolutionary steps for the near future with an eye towards further changes down the road?
ICONIC's recommendation is due no later than two weeks from now. In the meantime, fans and insiders alike are waiting with bated breath to find out what face the future of their sport will wear.
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I’m in favor of a common tub. Then allow any & every manufacturer that wants to build a chassis around that tub…that would let BAT, Dallara, Swift, Lola and even the DW all the opportunity to build a car. I’m willing to bet that concessions could be made by both the series and manufacturer’s to keep costs from being outrageous. For example there’s no reason the current Dallara front wing & nose has to cost $30,000.00…nor does it have to be built of carbon-fiber. And even with having multiple suppliers reducing the total number of cars built by any one supplier, building 8-10 cars a year is better than building none.
my take
IT’s only 23 votes, but it doesn’t look like 26% for DW supports the “virtually all think DW is yucky!” premise.
I’m unabashedly DW. I think it looks @#$#ing awesome, although apparently I’m in a minority here. But I will say I showed a picture to my mother – the person who got me into open wheel and instilled a love of the sport in me [even taking my brother and I to Pole Day every year. In the 80’s. And parking in the infield. Walking through the sight of amageddon and boobs to get to our seats with two sons < 10].
Her reaction to the DW rolling model? “Wow! That looks incredible!”
Just one data point I know, but wanted to throw that out there.
But beyond looks and the disagreement there, I think the “open source” concept is the only way to go. Let’s get some competition from the chassis design and not just “oh well they .. ummm.. LOOK a little different” [I’m looking at you, Lola]. And no more exclusivity.
Imagine a day where some designer somewhere can come up with a body style that fits the specs, roll it out there and who knows, maybe kick some ass vs the big players. That’s a ways off even with DW, but sure as hell can’t get there with a closed system.
And it sure would be a big differentiating factor from NASCAR.
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Lola, Lola, Lola...
Well, I voted Lola—-if they’re really only going to pick one, then that’s the one I’d go with. I guess I’d rather see the common tub thing, if economics allow, but since Lola has the common tub (with Lights) as part of their proposal… well, there’s one more reason to go with Lola. Others can join later.
I do not dig the Swift’s dorky styling. It looks like something out of Japanese Anime. Now that I think about it, there has never been a Swift car that I have truly dug. There’s always a fly in the ointment, something weird—-the front wing on the Formula Nissan, for instance. This new effort on their part has even more flies than that. It would be alright in a multi-chassis scenario, because I could laugh at it and just generally hate on it, while still enjoying the fresh-euro/retro-Indy vibe of the classy Lola.
Besides, I suspect that the Lola is what we were going to get had Barnhart been left to his own devices—-it would please me for Ganassi and Penske to have to buy a bunch of ‘em. I’m sick that way. Drive your enemies before you, that’s what I say.
BTW, Swift has an interesting history. It’s owned by a former Champ Car driver named Hiro Matsushita. His grandfather was Konosuke Matsushita, the founder of Matsushita Electric (AKA Panasonic, Technics, Quasar, etc). Of course, Panasonic is a sponsor of Hideki Mutoh, as well as other Japanese IndyCar drivers over the years, including Hiro himself.
Lola for 2012, Common tub for 2017
Go for Lola in 2012. I love the IICS/FIL compatible tub idea. That would help fix the “Road to Indy” ladder a little bit.
In 2017 IndyCar should adapt “Common tub” rules. Hopefully the series (and the economy) would be in better shape and that would eliminate “spec” racing in IndyCar (the 2012 engines would be the first step and the common tub would be the final).
the only thing that worries me with even the Lola concepts is that there is NO WAY the 2 chassis will be equal. Assuming the IICS does allow for some version of open-source/chassis competition, I think there HAS to be a ruling that the teams select a version before the season starts and STICK TO IT. No allowing Penske/Ganassi/Andretti to buy up everything and roll with the best at each track. Make them compromise.
Along with that, we need to allow the smaller teams access to the parts for testing purposes. Require that any company providing components have them available for “rent” during test weekends. This way teams like SFR can have access to everything without breaking the bank.
And I still just can’t get into the DW. They say all the right things, but as stated, show up at a car race with a tricycle. The reason NAPCAR is successful is because people can associate with the cars. Not that they can purchase a V8 RWD camry, but the stickers make it look close enough for most people to forget that fact. You will basically make every racing group around be a road to NAPCAR.
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I'd would love to see multiple chassis brought to the series.
And honestly, my loyalties lie largely with whomever will bring a large portion of the chassis manufacturing to Speedway, Indiana, which is in the middle of a massive (and much-needed) redevelopment.
Dallara has already committed to this, and I’ve heard rumors that Swift and Lola have also engaged Speedway in talks about manufacturing just around the corner from IMS. So any of those three would work for me.
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Swift
For a few reasons. From a pure aesthetics standpoint, I think they knocked it out of the park. It looks like a video game version of future formula car racing – the familiar open wheel layout with wings, but with sharp edges and sweeping curves. That’s the balance the series really needs – a connection to the history and traditional Indy look, but coming from 2025. The Lola is (are?) too conventional, though I wouldn’t object to them being on the track since they still look attractive, just dated. Dallara had some OK concepts but nothing that caught my eye. The BAT is just ugly, and I agree with the general “not an open wheeler” sentiment with the Delta Wing.
I also like the way Swift has evolved their design based on the feedback they’ve gotten from teams. It would seem to bode well for the construction and testing portion of the program.
I hope we get to see all the presentations at the end of this process – I’d like to see what’s changed in, for example, Dallara’s proposal since the first announcement.
I think the only thing that's changed in Dallara's proposal...
…is the number of times they’ve mentioned that they’ve supplied the series for over a decade.
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No new split
You said the split fifteen years ago was team “owners vs. league”. In fact it was a split between a single track owning family and the league, so this can’t be history repeating itself.
The appeal of DW for the owners is lower operating costs and getting mainstream auto manufacturers back in the game. The new engine rules should allow Ford, GM, Mercedes, Porsche, etc. to participate. If that happens and the chassis target costs are met, then the owners will be satisfied no matter which one is selected.
by Tom, Dayton OH on Jun 21, 2010 11:36 AM EDT reply actions

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