IndyCar "owner revolt" rumors an unwelcome reminder of a best-forgotten era
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Robin Miller (apparently after talking to Mike King's Breakfast Spectre) has dropped the big bombshell that some of the IZOD IndyCar Series owners are up in arms about the 2012 IndyCar and the ICONIC committee recommendations. Robin titled his piece "Owners Reject 2012 Car" and led with this sphincter-tightening thought:
What happens if the IZOD IndyCar Series builds a new car for 2012 and most teams refuse to buy it? We just might find out.
Now, Robin being Robin, this breathless inducement to panic doesn't quite play out the way you'd expect in the article. It's a hook designed to get your brain screaming and your eyeballs dangling from their sockets.
Still, there's plenty in Robin's story to get in a tizzy about, and probably the biggest is the fact that some of the IndyCar owners seem to be regressing into some very disturbingly familiar thought patterns.
Robin talks about a "near unanimous message" that developed from a team owners' meeting at Sonoma this past weekend. Tellingly, though, there are only three of the current owners quoted in the article, and only two elected to go on the record - Eric Bachelart and Dennis Reinbold.
The prevailing idea is that the owners are upset that IndyCar officials signed off on a deal with Dallara to build a "safety cell" that was open for third-party aerodynamic kits and bespoke engines within a certain horsepower range. What this means for them, they say, is a complete turnover of inventory starting in 2012 - a very expensive proposition, says Bachelart:
"The league decided to do a new car and never consulted the teams and we're all wondering how we're going to be able to pay for new equipment given the current economy and value of the series..."
If you take Bachelart's comment at face value without any contextual reference, you might think he has a point. Imagine that you own a two-car team like Bachelart does and basically have hired ride buyers to keep your operation afloat. Suddenly, the series drops the hammer on you by saying you will have to buy completely new equipment in two years and, by the way, nobody's going to want your old tubs. A daunting prospect, to be sure, and a bolt out of the blue that you don't appreciate.
The problem is, the idea that Bachelart or any of the other IndyCar owners didn't know this was coming is complete horse hockey.
The ICONIC committee sent out three pages' worth of questions to the team owners to solicit their opinions on the new direction for 2012 before anything was ever decided upon. But before ICONIC was even formed, team owners were already forming ranks behind the Delta Wing project as a way to bring innovation and cost savings to the series. In fact, the general consensus back then was that with aging inventory and stagnant technology, the series would actually die if steps were not taken to change things.
Now, I'll gladly admit to more than a little naivete but I can't possibly imagine how a complete turnover for Delta Wings is any different at all from a complete turnover for the 2012 ICONIC spec - except for who is holding the political reins.
Delta Wing, of course, made it clear that if adopted the technical side of matters would be under the supervision and control of DeltaWing, LLC, which by all reports had the support and vested interest of the owners. ICONIC's recommendation keeps technical control vested in the series.
All of that aside, one of the more confusing aspects of all of this is that the owners are voicing their concerns now. We are months removed from the start of all of this "new car" business and many weeks past the ICONIC announcement. For any of the owners to start freaking out about this in August smells very fishy to me - even if the "revolt" as some are inevitably going to call this is more a product of Robin Miller's wording than it is a reflection of reality.
You'll also have to pardon me for some cynicism when I hear about Roger Penske and Chip Ganassi allegedly worrying about the turnover costs of recreating inventory in 2012. Give me a break. Chip was and is bankrolling Ben Bowlby and Delta Wing, as well as monolithic racing programs in several other disciplines. Penske, while not a partner in Delta Wing, also has the wherewithal to compete in the top levels of many other expensive racing series. Moreover, the infrastructure they bring to the track and the R&D that they expend on their racing programs makes the rest of the IndyCar paddock look like Dickensian paupers. If they are making a stink, in my mind it has to be politically motivated.
I'm very interested to see the aftershocks from Miller's article to see how many owners will either grow a pair and voice their concerns publicly or back off of the whole concept of "owner revolt" that Robin has reintroduced to the IndyCar world today. I'm not sure how much of this is all hype and how much of it is genuine rebellion fomenting among the teams.
What I am sure of is this: this is not CART, fellas. If you threaten not to buy the new IndyCar, then you should know that you're not irreplaceable. The 15-year Split war that demolished the sport and devalued your racing enterprises to the point where you have to get ride buyers just to stay afloat was as much your own fault as it was Tony George's. Bringing that ethos and those motivations back to the table is the last thing you should be doing if you have any interest at all in rescuing IndyCar racing from the brink of extinction.
I don't agree with every choice made by ICONIC, but given the context of where the series is and where everyone wants it to go, it's a valid compromise that has potential. Running 2003-vintage Dallaras for another two years does not. We could talk all day about what happens to carbon-fiber race tubs after a season or two of strenuous racing activity, but the bottom line is that sticking with the current equipment screams STAGNATION. And stagnation means death to IndyCar racing.
At present, this "revolt" appears to have about as much political weight as an Internet petition. But if there is some truth to the matter that a handful of owners will refuse to go along with the 2012 IndyCar, then they should be prepared for that plan to backfire. Indeed, maybe what IndyCar needs is an influx of fresh blood in the ownership ranks - owners who don't have the long, ugly history of the past decade and a half of ego and strong-arming.
Robin has delivered your message, owners. Here's one from us: Stay, or go - but crap or get off the pot. Spare us the whining about victimization. Fool us once...
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the owner’s weren’t consulted? sorry, I don’t believe that. they expected to keep running the decade old Dallara’s that were designed for ovals only? no, I don’t think so. I had hoped at the time that there might be a way to keep running the old Dallaras with the new car, but that ain’t gonna happen. chip is whining because he didn’t get his way. and the Captain spends way more money on Nascar rides. I have no sympathy for these owners. awesome—just what the series needs. I seriously hope this is Rmiller runnin’ his mouth again.
lots of quotes
Mike Hull, head of Ganassi Racing, was on the June 1st edition of Trackside on 1070 the Fan and when talking about the 500 in retrospect, was saying the bad end to the race was due to having such an overdeveloped car. His interview begins at 9:45 into the audio file. Here are the key bits. At 14:20 he talks about how it used to be different cars and different engines and how the racing with the current cars have taken the driver out of it, and then after some leading says that if there were different cars and engines, it would be far better for the race so that no one can figure out what everyone else is doing strategically. At 28:55 he is asked his opinion on the new car:
http://www.1070thefan.com/trackside/podcast.aspx?pn=2
Verbatim quote: “I firmly believe what the DeltaWing project represents is a functional direction for the future, it’s where we need to go. Everyone has opinions about which chassis that we should be racing, I don’t think that’s the most important consideration. Personally I think the IRL has it backwards. They should concentrate on an engine formula that makes sense for the future that will bring engine companies back into our series. By doing that and setting that as the foundation, and not accepting the fact that a purpose-built V6 twin-turbocharged engine by one particular manufacturer is the end all for end alls. That’s not going to make it for us. They just need to come up with a general formula that makes sense. Then what will happen all the chassis manufacturers will build cars around the engine companies’ engines. And guess what? Because of the speeds that we need travel on road tracks, street tracks, short ovals, intermediate ovals, long ovals, the cars will end up looking very similar. But you’ll end up with different chassis technology and different engine technology. And the second thing that needs to happen with that is very clearly the IRL needs to have a stronger technical base than they currently have. They need to create a technical base in-house that understands the equivalency of chassis and engines. They’re short here. They need to have that going forward. They need to establish a strong technical group that understands what we actually do as race teams, and understands that technology coming in 2015 onwards, from the engine companies, get it on the race track, and then the the third thing is the engine companies are going to define our drivers to the public. They’re going to promote our guys. Is Swift going to promote a driver? Is Dallara going to promote a driver? Is DeltaWing going to promote a driver? Is the Bruce Ashmore group going to promote a driver? No, they’re going to promote themselves, they want to sell cars. They’re in the business to sell cars. Historically, the engine companies, if you provide them with an avenue for fresh technology, they will jump into the series. And they’ll promote Dario, they’ll promote Dixon, they’ll promote Briscoe, they’ll promote Mike Conway, they’ll promote Justin Wilson. Because suddenly, that’s their guy. These guys truly have it backwards. And that’s what DeltaWing has really been saying all along.”
From Marshall Pruett’s article prior to the DeltaWing reveal:
http://planet-irl.com/2010/02/18/panther-racings-john-barnes-discusses-the-delta-wing-proposal/
“The IndyCar of Tomorrow — the 2012 machine — is a construct of the entrants in the IndyCar paddock. After a continual lack of progress by the League, Chip Ganassi, Ganassi’s Ben Bowlby, Bowlby’s newly formed Delta Wing, LLC, and the majority of the paddock have gotten together to propose a radical new chassis, a clean slate for engine regulations, and everything else they hope will revitalize open-wheel racing.
From Robin Miller’s article prior to the DeltaWing reveal:
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/miller-dont-fear-2012/
“But, the bottom line is that IndyCar is long overdue for a makeover because running the same car for seven seasons has made things boring, predictable and did I mention boring?
That ugly old Dallara has sucked the life out of a Gasoline Alley that once enjoyed cutting edge technology and embraced free thinking.
What Brian Barnhart & Company can’t seem to grasp is that the different cars and engines were always as big a part of the attraction to Indianapolis as the drivers.
We idolized Jim Hurtubise, Jim Clark and Parnelli Jones and we paid even more attention when they were in the Novi, the Lotus and the turbine. Roger Penske tried three chassis in 1995 and still couldn’t make the show a year after dominating Indy and there’s never been a bigger crowd on Bump Day.
Open wheel racing, even in the late ‘90s in CART, boasted five chassis and four engine manufacturers, which created interest, competition and a cash flow that hasn’t been seen since.
Nobody is saying that a new car/engine package is immediately going to add 25,000 spectators to the ISC ovals or manufacturers are going to start throwing money at IndyCar teams.
But what if an American-built car only cost half of what owners have to shell out today? What if the car was assembled in Indianapolis from components built over here instead of paying the outrageous exchange rate to get parts from Italy? What if the rules were written so that local race car builders like Joe Devin and Danny Drinan could come compete at Indy with their own ideas and not have it cost them $1 million for one month?
What if the trailing car suffered no aerodynamic disadvantage going into a corner?
What if Lola, Swift and Panoz are enticed to come back?
What if the engine cost a tenth of what a lease is today? What if it got such great mileage that rebuilds were 5,000 miles apart? What if the smaller, more efficient engine platform suddenly got Detroit’s interest? What if Porsche or Audi or Alfa wants to show off their 4-cylinder engines?
What if normally-aspirated or V-6 engines also wanted to play?
What if suddenly there were 50 cars going for 33 spots in May instead of scrambling at the last minute to fill the field?
We won’t know the answers to these questions for at least a year but the point is that at least the owners are taking the initiative to try and come up with something fresh, different and relevant to the times.
As well as something more affordable."
John Barnes from Planet-IRL interview:
http://planet-irl.com/2010/02/18/panther-racings-john-barnes-discusses-the-delta-wing-proposal/
“However, it was not 2010 but rather 2012 that was the topic of conversation when Panther Racing co-owner John Barnes spoke with Planet-IRL recently. Barnes has been onboard with the Delta Wing group since the middle of last season and has been an outspoken proponent of the concept since its public introduction on February 11 at the Chicago Auto Show. He says that the first news of the Delta Wing project started making rounds last year at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway during the Month of May and continued to gain momentum throughout the summer. Finally, at Motegi, all of the team owners were introduced to the concept, and most of them were immediately on board with the theories presented. Barnes and many of his fellow team owners in the IZOD IndyCar Series Paddock see the project as not only a way to shake up the current status quo amongst the teams currently competing but as essential to the success and future relevance of the IndyCar Series. Such a radical change is seen by many in the paddock as a way to reach the younger viewers rather than presenting them the same cars that have essentially been raced since the early 1970’s. Says Barnes, "Our success and whether we’re going to stay in business, in all motorsports, is determined by that 10-year old kid. It’s not going to be determined the 40-year old looking at the computer." That isn’t to say that the League should turn its back on the current fan base but the owners hope that reintroducing a period of innovation to the racing community will strike a chord with established and new fans alike.
In speaking of the car itself, as it was presented in Chicago, Barnes says he understands that people are skeptical and is not surprised by the general negativity that the concept car has received from racing fans. The same thing, he says, was said about the Cooper Climax that Colin Chapman and Sir Jack Brabham brought to Indianapolis in May 1961. Soon though, what was mocked and ridiculed was accepted as the norm. Barnes understands that human nature is to be skeptical of such a big change, especially when it is implemented in one setting, but his faith in Ben Bowlby’s genius puts his mind at ease. Additionally, the car has been in computational fluid dynamic (CFD) simulations for 24 hours a day over the past several months. The fact that the Delta Wing group actually presented a physical model of their ideas, rather than just drawings and computer images, puts them further down the development path than the proposals submitted to the Indy Racing League by Dallara, Swift and Lola. In response to many fans concerns about the lack of open-wheels, Barnes says that now is the time for that evolution to be accepted. As he said, "IndyCar didn’t used to have wings either." As the "person who has to pay for all our crashed [stuff]," Barnes is particularly excited about the decreased number of accidents that will result from reduced wheel interlock between cars. Panther Racing currently has five Dallara IndyCar chassis in their inventory, at a cost of approximately $800,000 each, plus roughly $1 million per entrant for a Honda engine lease. For a new team to run a single entrant with a primary and a backup car, teams would expect to spend roughly $2.6 million for just the car and engine lease. That, of course, does not include any crash damage, tires, spare parts, etc. A price tag of $3 million is more likely under the current system, with all prices subject to the rate set forth by Dallara. Barnes says that the proposed Delta Wing car would cost roughly $600,000 for the car and engine, and the teams would own the engine. More importantly, says Barnes, the prices of the car and all components of the car would be set by the engineering committee."
From Indianapolis Business Journal article on DeltaWing:
"All the car owners agree we need innovation back at Indianapolis," Bowlby told SpeedTV. "We also need to be relevant to the spectators and to the manufacturers while reducing waste, making things more affordable and widening participation.
"We just want to give the IRL an innovative, creative option but we believe this can attract a renewed interest from car and engine manufacturers."
I hope I’ve demonstrated the owners double-faceness with all these quotes clearly based on what they once supported and said and what they’re saying now that they can’t support it.
by rj1 on Aug 26, 2010 12:20 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Yep, you sure did.
“We’ve got to have a new car, ASAP! It needs to cost no more than $600,000 a piece, including engine, or nobody will be able to afford it!”
Months later: “Our equipment is going to be obsolete overnight! [Yeah…as it would have been if ICONIC had selected ANY new car.] We weren’t asked our opinion! [Um, we have it on record that you were. Your preference just wasn’t selected.] Oh, well, we don’t like this new car! It’s too expensive! [Um, guys, it costs just barely more than what you were asking for.] Oh, um…we don’t like who we have to cut the checks to! [Uh, OK…]”
My hope is that Robin’s put this out there into the court of public opinion, so that the team owners will have a chance to hear the level of disgust that the fanbase will hold toward their attitude. Yeah, I know, the idea of the car owners actually listening to what the fans think is pretty miniscule (and I’m a guy who’s defended team owners in the past, because it’s hard to have a decent, reputable racing series without them), but this is just too much.
by The Speedgeek on Aug 26, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
2012
This year I started watching IRL consistently for the first time. Reading about DeltaWing was a big turn off. Reading about the direction they went with is very exciting. I truly can’t wait for 2012.
More options and more freedom is more excitment. Being able to choose a combination that is better for a road course vs oval or a mix. Easier on tires or use less fuel.
Even middle tier teams could potentially choose a combination that is highly optimized for a specific few tracks thus giving them a real shot at winning races.
Bring on the 2012 season!
Ok, *if* the owners are truly staging a minirevolt...
… can someone make the fable of the Golden Goose required reading before they do anything? I know the eggs being laid nowadays are not quite golden, but the moral still applies: Short sighted action that kills the goose leaves you with nothing.
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WTF?
No, they can’t possibly be serious. This must be purely a political maneuver to try to gain something. What, I have no idea. As @rj1 so thoroughly demonstrates, they are talking out both sides of their mouth here. As for a “split”, well, there’s nothing left to split. Indycar is hanging by a thread. If the owners try to revolt, the series will fold up shop. Which owners will be willing to bankroll the overhead, and expense of a new CART? Not only does over half of the paddock need ride buyers to pay the bills, they also get a handout from the league in the form of the TEAM money. Will Gannasi or Penske bankroll a new CART? Like hell they will. They were the first owners to jump ship from the last CART money pit. Both are businessmen first and foremost. They ain’t gonna pay to run DRR, Conquest, Panther, etc.. out of their own pockets.
I really don’t know what they are trying to achieve with this saber rattling. More input on the specs? Leverage on reducing the price of the tub from Dallara? That’s about all I can figure.
arrogance....
That’s all I can figure here. The owners believe they have all the right answers, and the league has none. The league has hired a new technical guy to oversee the new car. A guy the owners respect. They have a new president, who the owners have all said they like what he’s doing. BUT, since they didn’t get their way, then the new car is a bad idea? These guys need to understand that you can’t have your cake and eat it too. ChampCar was what the teams wanted, and we see what happened to it.
TN Sports fan in Hoosier Country....
not as bad...
ok, lesson learned for the day: read original article before getting too worked up.
From the above story, it appears the Miller article was fire and brimstone. I just read it, and my take is that the owners are basically upset because all the finishing touches aren’t made yet.
I do, however, still think it’s BS that the owners are NOW saying they don’t have money to buy a new car. They have had plenty of time to realize that the new cars were coming out. And they’re going to be CHEAPER than current. While teams like SFR may have that complaint, Penske and Ganassi would likely be buying new cars anyway.
I’m not sure I can handle another split. I stuck with OWR after the split. Heck, I even stuck with the NHL after the split. I enjoy the racing, but arrogance can ruin many good things.
TN Sports fan in Hoosier Country....
Here's the best part
The owners elected de Ferran to the ICONIC committee. It’s not like they never had a voice in how this process played out.
And while the lack of details about the 2012 chassis is frustrating, it’s no reason to start whining. Details will come, and a qualified manager is assigned to the chassis/engine development.
Either you want to be part of the IZOD IndyCar Series or you don’t.
Auto racing writer, SB Nation Indiana. Because in 49 other states, it's just sports!

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