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Five reasons to take a couple of steps back from the ledge

Who is awesome enough to melt off your face? THIS GUY. (Photo by Nick Laham/Getty Images)

I don't know if you've noticed, but it seems lately that INDYCAR, after starting this year with some admirable momentum, has, like that kid in the viral videos on YouTube who tried to jump the creek on his BMX bike but failed to pull up hard enough on the handlebars, come to a very very sudden stop, creamed its nuts on its handlebars, and is now puking blood in the dirt.

Some of this has to do with things beyond their control - like drivers performing as if they were inside in a giant Happy Days pinball machine - but other egg-on-face moments have sprung from an attitude of "We are doing this because screw you guys" on the part of both the series managers and the team owners that we all assumed was supposed to be merely implied instead of expressed vocally on national television.

In times like these, the standard doom-and-gloom and "Man, Sylvia Plath really had some neat ideas about inhaling poisonous oven gas" thought processes normally espoused by IndyCar fans as a matter of course seem a little more justified. It is for this reason that even the most cynical and snark-ridden pundits - like me, for instance - occasionally have to force ourselves to find nuggets of positivity to share with the rest of you suicidal freaks.

So put down those razors and prescription medicines and read along as we remind you that even a glass 1/4th full is not totally bone-dry empty.

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  • The 2012 IndyCar totally exists and has actually turned laps. Bryan Herta Autosport, the team that improbably won the 2011 Indianapolis 500, stuffed their driver, Dan Wheldon (and his gloriously capped teeth) into a rolling turbo-powered Dallara-Honda for testing after the Mid-Ohio race this year. Sure, it still had an airbox an overhead turbo inlet which coincidentally makes it unnecessary for INDYCAR to change the existing corporate logos; but the car already was almost immediately faster and more nimble than the 2003 crapwagon it will be replacing. Okay, so the bodywork - which either made you mildly skeptical or fully ready to mount a frontal assault on Mordor armed only with a handful of dirt and slavering screams of fury, depending on your level of cynicism - probably wasn't the sexist thing ever built, but underneath that bodywork will be at least two, and probably three, different brands and types of powerplant. Did I mention turbochargers? And did I also mention that BHA and the Grandest Grin In All Britain, authors of the biggest feel-good story of the year, should be well-positioned for a full-time ride next season too?
  • KV Racing is no longer just an extremely expensive punchline. Listen, there's really no way to get around EJ Viso and his Happy Multiple Impact and Collision Show. But Takuma Sato and Tony Kanaan have made huge strides this season, and while Sato still has a bit of polishing yet to do, he's getting more recognition lately for being fast than being someone else's trailer hitch or hood ornament. And Kanaan - well, I think it's pretty obvious that Andretti Autosport's case of sour grapes was all just bad whine (don't forget to tip your waitress, folks). Still work to do? Sure, but this is not the team of Three Blind Mice from last season.
  • Oriol Servia has a full-time ride and is using it to kick ass. And you never know - in the next couple of days, he might even be labeled an IndyCar race winner! (If his protest goes better than Paul Tracy's did nine years ago, that is.) All of that aside, 2011 has been Oriol's chance to say, "IN YOUR FACE, PRETENTIOUS ASSMUNCHERS WHO BELIEVED I WAS NOT WORTH THE INVESTMENT!!!" - although, let's be honest, Oriol is too classy to actually say something like that. See? The good guys do still make good in this series every so often.
  • INDYCAR has a ton of young talent in the wings (*rimshot*). JR Hildebrand. James Hinchcliffe. Martin Plowman. Pippa Mann. Simona de Silvestro. Josef Newgarden. Conor Daly. Bryan Clausen. Sage Karam. Petri Suvanto. Shannon McIntosh. Zach Veach. Look, if you aren't getting a serious chubby at this collection of up-and-coming talent, you really need to go pay attention to something else, like reality TV or the Westminster Dog Show.
  • Will Power flipped off Brian Barnhart in glorious high-definition with both fists. Racing series all over the planet are trying to get their drivers to show some more emotion after decades of trying to get them to hide it under a smooth, plasticized, corporate-friendly Stepford Wife personality. The "boys, have at it" movement is just about as fake as the mild, benign, Coke-swigging spokesmodels that racers have become. Who knew that the most egregious public failure of INDYCAR Race Control would also unleash the Terror of Toowoomba, Hulk-like, with network TV cameras capturing every fabulous moment for posterity's (and YouTube's) sake? Hell, I nearly filled out a change-of-nationality card to make myself Australian after that. Don't apologize, Mr. Power (and yes, from now on, you WILL show him the proper respect, or else he will boomerang you with Crocodile Dundee's knife) - you injected some much-needed life, passion, and humor into a series that desperately lacked those elements for far too long.

What about it, INDYCAR fans... what has happened this year - or will happen in the future - that has kept you from Kevorkian-ing yourself into oblivion?

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by Veni Vidi Vici on Aug 18, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

KV & EJ

I beg to differ about EJ. He has shown much improvement this year and is getting better. He has posted some good lap times and had some good races. If you go back and review his driving this year, you will see that many of the problems he has had were not his fault. E.g. his stuck throttle cable that put him into a tire barrier at full speed during practice. I need to look again at NH, but I do not agree that his tire brushing there was totally his fault, that was everyone trying to avoid a wreck and zigzagging around.

I think another year of him working and learning with Takuma and TK will do wonders.

by madtad1 on Aug 17, 2011 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Power

I think that Will Power becoming a Youtube sensation will do more for the series than Helio winning Dancing With The Stars. It even is a better fit for the demographic that Indycar is going after.

Perhaps in 2014 when everyone is wondering what was the turning point for the IndyCar series, we’ll be looking back on the double-bird freakout as the pivotal moment.

by Mathieu McGowan on Aug 17, 2011 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Your list of talent!

JR Hildebrand – YES!
James Hinchcliffe – YES!
Simona de Silvestro – YES! It is imperative she stays in the series.
Josef Newgarden – YES!
Conor Daly – YES!

Martin Plowman – Errr what? Are Mr & Mrs Plowman aware he competes in IndyCar?
Pippa Mann – You put that one in as a joke right? If she was ‘Philip Mann’ nobody would care. A driver of very limited ability. Milka qualified for two Indy 500’s.
Bryan Clausen – Can he drive on a road course?
Sage Karam – Won a series with 4 proper/full time cars in it. Now 5th in Star Mazda.
Petri Suvanto – A well financed kid who underwhelmed in Europe.
Shannon McIntosh – A girl with not much talent. Ninth in points ins a series with only 9 full time drivers.
Zach Veach – A rich kid who DIDN’T win a a series with 4 proper/full time cars in it.

Tony, I think you’re blog is terrific and you write with passion and style but this borders on the ridiculous. Who do you genuinely expect to get ‘serious chubby’ about more than half that list? Are you relying on people to get excited just because they may have heard of some of these drivers? The ladder system right now is a mess, small grids and less talent. This sort of hyperbole is not helping.

Cheers,

Dex

PS – I genuinely love your stuff and being this critical of you doesn’t sit well with me.

by Declan Brennan on Aug 17, 2011 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Hyperbole?

Compare the ladder talent today to the ladder talent of even five years ago. It’s not hyperbole. And your assessments of several of the drivers are off the mark.

I don’t mind disagreement, even criticism, but man, you have a real talent for going overboard on some of your critiques. Comparing Pippa and Milka? That’s almost straw-man-level stuff, brother.

A person can take anything out of context and rip it to shreds. Hell, I could take the ALMS – a series of fantastic technology, driver talent, and race action – and by looking at things through a certain filter and context make it look stupider than the XFL or monster truck racing.

I appreciate your take and don’t begrudge you your opinion, but I’m not willing to consign any of the drivers I listed to the shitcan at this early stage of their careers.

You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers.
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by Tony Johns on Aug 17, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, what do you have against Monster Truck racing?! :)

TN Sports fan in Hoosier Country....

by Evanbio on Aug 18, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

IndyCar would do well to learn some lessons from Monster Trucks, considering that Monster Jam sells something like 3 million tickets a year and every toy aisle in the country is graced with the presence of multiple sizes of Grave Digger.

by Arenacale on Aug 18, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really Dex?

You should try coming to watch a race before you pass judgement on the talent level.

Plowman….haven’t seen him race so can’t argue with you
Mann…..Rich Girl buying rides…Agree with you
Clausen……How many F1 Drivers can drive an oval?
Karam…..Kid has talent just needs to mature a little
Survanto…..kicking the asses the chosen skip babor and mazda speed drivers
McIntosh….can’t argue
Veach….Not sure if he is a rich kid other kids show up in 5 series BMW’s and he and his family shows up in a Ford F-150 pickup. If you look at his experiance he is doing well never did skip barbor and barley raced go carts and is consistantly on the podium. I think he is a driver that in time will prove he has talent

by mikeirlfan on Aug 22, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oriol Servia

I don’t know what’s clicking him to do what he’s doing this year, but it can’t be bad, huh? I mean, he’s doing far more than in 2008, where he apparently was just one of those “average drivers”. Now what? He’s fast, consistent and – why not – about to win?
And I’m a guy who usually thinks badly of Spanish ppl; not him, though.
About the newcomers: Hildebrand, Hinchcliffe and Simona came to the series already showing some results; we just can’t ignore them.

by Morien on Aug 18, 2011 12:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Talent

So you have gone from ‘getting a serious chubby’ to not willing to consign any of them to the shitcan in one post?

None of the drivers, from Plowman to Veach have done anything outside of a shamefully uncompetitive US open wheel ladder series. Karam won a USF2000 title with only four drivers doing all the events in the ‘pro’ class. That is no indication of anyone’s talent.

Why would anyone get excited about Pippa Mann who was 1.5 seconds off the pace after 176 laps of practice at Loudon?

I’m really not sure what the ALMS has to do with the fact that you have gone over the top about a list of drivers yet to prove anything on a truly competitive stage.

I don’t think you are displaying any sense of perspective when it comes to these drivers.

i just went and looked at the 2006 Star Mazda, Indy Lights and Toyota Atlantic fields and the level of talent across the board was extremely sub-par then too.

Dex

by Declan Brennan on Aug 18, 2011 8:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I appreciate these drivers based on potential. You’re splitting hairs about me being excited in one post and not being willing to discard them in another, as if those are CONTRADICTORY SENTIMENTS – which they are not.

Your assessment of my sense of perspective is somewhat diluted by the fact that you are coming down on me like a ton of bricks for my opinion… based solely on your OWN opinion. The fact is that both of us are equally likely to be right – or wrong – about what we think will happen with these drivers. I choose to be excited for the future of these drivers, and I simply fail to fathom why that is some sort of egregious violation of some tenet of motorsports conventional wisdom.

You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers.
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by Tony Johns on Aug 18, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Naw, Dex is right

Really, Tony, most of those drivers are clearly shite. Or, at least, that’s what you can certainly conclude after two IndyCar starts (in Pippa’s case), one IndyCar start (Plowey), like 5 starts in Lights (Clauson, who’ll hopefully get a chance at a full season Lights drive next year), a half season in Double-A ball (Karam, who I’ll add is not even old enough to buy his own smokes yet), half a season in Single-A ball (Suvanto), a season and a half in Single-A ball (Veach, also still sub-smoking age) or a half season in a completely different type of car than they’ve ever driven before (ShanMac). Nope, the only types of drivers you should get excited for, in regards to future open wheel success, are the Jan Magnussens (ruled British F3 like no driver since Senna, washed out of F1 after two seasons with nary a result), the Noberto Fontanas (beat a ton of past- and current-F1 guys to the Italian F3 championship, didn’t do anything with his handful of F1 starts, wound up in touring cars), the Bjorn Wirdheims (beat the ever loving hell out of everybody in F3000, looked totally out of sorts in a fairly weak era of ChampCar), the Ricardo Zontas (looked like a sure thing, right up until the second he stepped into an F1 car), the Stefano Modenas (see Zonta, though he ran OK a few times in F1) or the Luca Badoers (currently a running punchline, from his pace in a current era F1 car and how his name sounds).

Or, maybe, Dex, one of the young folks that you’re so bent on rubbishing might turn out to be a Nigel Mansell-type? You know, the type that has a great season in junior formulae, then a couple of decidedly average ones, then takes a few years at the top level before they finally break through and become a household name?

Look, it is fashionable to trash the current ladder system (and believe me, if I can find a spare hour one of these days, I am going to dismantle Mike Knight’s latest blog post [http://spindoctor500blog.blogspot.com/2011/08/light-weights.html] in my blog, line-by-line), but the fact of the matter is that we just don’t have a large enough sample size with ANY of those young drivers, J.R., Hinch, Sim, Conor and Josef excepted. A few of them might well turn out to be good, solid mid-packers, Vitor-style, and one or two of them might turn out to be borderline great in the Big Cars, RHR-style. IMO, there’s just no reason to trash all of them right this second just because they don’t resemble an Ayrton or a Juan Pablo before they’ve turned 22.

by The Speedgeek on Aug 18, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

a small suggestion

If Josef Newgarten would simply change his name to Joe Newgarten he could be the biggest star in the future of open-wheel. Joe Newgarten sounds like he could have been racing Novi’s against Sam Hanks and Eddie Sachs. Or winning at Daytona when they still ran in the sand. Josef Newgarten sounds like a Viennese ride-buyer.

by reddcarr on Aug 18, 2011 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Talent

Speedgeek,

You are falling into exactly the line of thinking that Tony did.

My objection is to Tony basically ordering me to be excited about those drivers and their future in the sport or watch something else as if they are the cast iron saviors of IndyCar. When in truth, none of them have achieved anything and Mann & Plowman have bought their way into the series with almost nothing credible on their resumes.

I object to be being ordered to get excited about any driver who In know has proven that they have almost no talent or have EVERYTHING to prove.

Simple as that.

Dex

by Declan Brennan on Aug 19, 2011 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

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